Eminent
social scientist Ashis Nandy talks about the mindset of the youth,
the state of the minorities and online attacks on him
By
Shevlin Sebastian
Eminent
social scientist Ashis Nandy was careful about his sugar intake. At
the restaurant of the Le Meridien, he put only half a sachet of the
sweetener in his tea. “At 82, I have to be careful,” he says,
with a smile.
Nandy
was in Kochi because he was a featured speaker at the ninth annual
conference on Metaphysics and Politics, organised by the Backwaters
Collective.
Although
he looked calm, he was in the midst of a media storm having been one
of the signatories among the 49 eminent citizens who wrote a letter
to Prime Minister Narendra Modi on July 23 expressing their alarm at
the lynchings taking place all over India.
“Online
trolls have been attacking me non-stop,” says Nandy. But what
particularly upset him was when veteran directors Adoor
Gopalakrishnan, Shyam Benegal and Aparna Sen were attacked. “Adoor
is such an eminent film-maker,” he says. “And what about Shyam?
He has done so much for the country. Shyam has done a film on the
constitution of India and a wonderful series called ‘Discovery of
India’. He is not a self-centred Bombay filmwallah. As for Aparna,
she has also done fantastic work and comes from a distinguished
family. Her family has been associated with the freedom movement for
generations.”
Asked
whether he was scared, Nandy says, “I am not, but my family is
worried.”
Interestingly,
he says, the brutalisation of society is not an overnight phenomenon.
“There was barbaric violence during the Partition of India (1947),”
he says. “This violence has continued, in different forms, over the
past seven decades. Something has gone wrong.”
Today,
nobody reacts if a father molests his daughter, a husband kills his
wife, a son hits his mother, or a man is lynched. “These were
aberrations earlier, but are now regarded as normal,” says Nandy.
There
is a siege mentality in the country. “The majority community has
the fear of being outnumbered,” says Nandy. “How can 82 percent
of the population be outnumbered? So many people have written saying
this is so. It’s unbelievable.”
As
for the minorities, there is an erosion of trust. “But still, they
continue to believe in the Indian state and the judiciary,” says
Nandy. “In their day-to-day life, they can get things done. So,
life is going on. If Hindus and Muslims can live together despite the
barbarity during Partition, I am sure they will be able to live
together now.”
Asked
whether the next generation can make a difference, Nandy is
doubtful.
“Many
youths take to science and technology and tend to go to IIT (Indian
Institute of Technology), or IT (Information Technology),” he
says. “These are disciplines where you can score very high marks.
You can get good jobs. And they also tend to do very well in the
civil service exams. So a large number of IAS and IPS officers come
from this sector.”
The
students are brilliant, but they lack a liberal education. “They
are one-dimensional, and have no idea about social values,” says
Nandy. “What are the conditions of democratic governance? What are
the limits of behaviour in the public sphere? They are ignorant of
literature, sociology, psychology, arts, history, and philosophy. A
study of these subjects would have developed the finer aspects of
their self. As a result, today, young administrators have no empathy
for the common people. It is only about data and statistics.”
(The
New Indian Express, Kochi and Thiruvananthapuram)
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